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Post by Hollowgreen on Dec 26, 2019 19:28:40 GMT
This game will go a long way to deciding the destination of the flag.
I would go 4-5-1
Forster
Ajer Bitton Julien Taylor
Frimpong Brown McGregor Christie Boli
Eduardo
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Post by Hollowgreen on Dec 29, 2019 14:31:30 GMT
Beat 1-2. No disguising that. We were outfought, out thought and tactically naive. Rangers deserved to win. Forrest was abysmal once again against Rangers. What is it with Forrest in these games ?
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Post by prairiebhoy on Dec 29, 2019 15:10:56 GMT
Beat 1-2. No disguising that. We were outfought, out thought and tactically naive. Rangers deserved to win. Forrest was abysmal once again against Rangers. What is it with Forrest in these games ? Games like this are what transfers are for. Why wasn't Edouard taking the penalty
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Post by sireadh on Dec 29, 2019 15:46:42 GMT
When i saw the line up I had the feeling that it was not going to go well, a line up that you might pick against most teams but not against this mob. Stop the wide men, push on to a weak midfield and leave Eddie on his own. Tricky tanner baw players are all very well against most SPFL sides but we needed some steel in midfield. Ntcham should never be out of our midfield for my money. Hoping against hope for 20 minutes I was crying out for Forrest, MJ and Christie to be off the field, you all saw the result of them staying on. Christie on the penalty, where did that come from? Lenny. I don't know if El Hamed is fit or not but three at the back with him Julien and Ajer, two wing backs Frimpong and Taylor with Calmac Ntcham Brown and either Griff and Eddie up front or Rogic in behind Eddie would be better. I read people going on about the transfer window and the players we might bring in. We have the players in the main we just need a manager who is tactically aware cos Lenny as much as I liked him as a player will be our downfall. We could have changed 20 mins in with Forrest off and Frimpong playing wide with Bitton moving into back four, Ntcham on for Christie and Griff on for MJ. But a little too late from our Neil again. Past results have been scrappy late goals, yes we beat Lazio but with late winners after they missed a host of chances, so to the chances missed by Sevco in the final. Lennon is not the man to get 10 in a row and the backlash will be huge.
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Post by prairiebhoy on Dec 29, 2019 16:03:45 GMT
When i saw the line up I had the feeling that it was not going to go well, a line up that you might pick against most teams but not against this mob. Stop the wide men, push on to a weak midfield and leave Eddie on his own. Tricky tanner baw players are all very well against most SPFL sides but we needed some steel in midfield. Ntcham should never be out of our midfield for my money. Hoping against hope for 20 minutes I was crying out for Forrest, MJ and Christie to be off the field, you all saw the result of them staying on. Christie on the penalty, where did that come from? Lenny. I don't know if El Hamed is fit or not but three at the back with him Julien and Ajer, two wing backs Frimpong and Taylor with Calmac Ntcham Brown and either Griff and Eddie up front or Rogic in behind Eddie would be better. I read people going on about the transfer window and the players we might bring in. We have the players in the main we just need a manager who is tactically aware cos Lenny as much as I liked him as a player will be our downfall. We could have changed 20 mins in with Forrest off and Frimpong playing wide with Bitton moving into back four, Ntcham on for Christie and Griff on for MJ. But a little too late from our Neil again. Past results have been scrappy late goals, yes we beat Lazio but with late winners after they missed a host of chances, so to the chances missed by Sevco in the final. Lennon is not the man to get 10 in a row and the backlash will be huge. Ntcham should have started. That's my only issue. Lineup was ok but as of late, Rangers show a more attack mentality. Bringing in another striker is mandatory. Doesn't look like Griffiths is going to add much.
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Post by sireadh on Dec 29, 2019 16:25:38 GMT
Not so much a striker more a battering ram we need up front and play Eddie off him.We are too soft. Ntcham on his own would not have made much of a difference when our two wide men were not at the races. Forrest and MJ would hardly get a game in a MON side which was built around strength with ability. The two sevco central defenders had it easy against Eddie we need a Morelos. type.
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Post by prairiebhoy on Dec 29, 2019 16:50:04 GMT
Not so much a striker more a battering ram we need up front and play Eddie off him.We are too soft. Ntcham on his own would not have made much of a difference when our two wide men were not at the races. Forrest and MJ would hardly get a game in a MON side which was built around strength with ability. The two sevco central defenders had it easy against Eddie we need a Morelos. type. Actually I'd prefer someone who can play in the middle and as you say be strong enough to cause problems. Play a #9 or striker
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Post by Hollowgreen on Dec 30, 2019 10:49:18 GMT
Beat 1-2. No disguising that. We were outfought, out thought and tactically naive. Rangers deserved to win. Forrest was abysmal once again against Rangers. What is it with Forrest in these games ? Games like this are what transfers are for. Why wasn't Edouard taking the penalty I would happily accept any good offer for Forrest in January. The guy is a coward when he plays against Rangers. Eduoard had missed a penalty before, and Christie took over the duty. If Celtic had been watching MacGregor at penalties, they would have seen he generally goes left at them. Christie penalty was also at height which was comfortable for him to save. If that had been Barry Robson taking the penalty he would have blasted it straight down the middle. I also think MacGregor was off his line at the penalty.
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Post by Hollowgreen on Dec 30, 2019 10:55:58 GMT
When i saw the line up I had the feeling that it was not going to go well, a line up that you might pick against most teams but not against this mob. Stop the wide men, push on to a weak midfield and leave Eddie on his own. Tricky tanner baw players are all very well against most SPFL sides but we needed some steel in midfield. Ntcham should never be out of our midfield for my money. Hoping against hope for 20 minutes I was crying out for Forrest, MJ and Christie to be off the field, you all saw the result of them staying on. Christie on the penalty, where did that come from? Lenny. I don't know if El Hamed is fit or not but three at the back with him Julien and Ajer, two wing backs Frimpong and Taylor with Calmac Ntcham Brown and either Griff and Eddie up front or Rogic in behind Eddie would be better. I read people going on about the transfer window and the players we might bring in. We have the players in the main we just need a manager who is tactically aware cos Lenny as much as I liked him as a player will be our downfall. We could have changed 20 mins in with Forrest off and Frimpong playing wide with Bitton moving into back four, Ntcham on for Christie and Griff on for MJ. But a little too late from our Neil again. Past results have been scrappy late goals, yes we beat Lazio but with late winners after they missed a host of chances, so to the chances missed by Sevco in the final. Lennon is not the man to get 10 in a row and the backlash will be huge. Nitcham is not the answer either, he would have made no difference yesterday. He is a stroller who has no heart for the battle. When he came on for the last twenty minutes it was like a cameo guest appearance. He made absolutely no impact. I do agree we need a battering ram upfront because Eduardo is too soft. That Cosgrove of Aberdeen looks like he plays the no.9 role well and he can rummell up big defenders.
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Post by sireadh on Dec 30, 2019 14:28:43 GMT
Ntcham coming on for his so called cameo was not going to undo what had gone before, he should have started. In and out of the side on a regular basis is not going to help anyone. My biggest fear is that Lawell actually believes that Lennon has an eye for a player. Here we have a coach who had he been in the stands as a fan watching this, would have been shouting with many of the fans after twenty that change was needed, yet in a position to make those changes he does nothing neither at twenty minutes or at half time. His eye for a player suggests that by playing Forrest and Johnston wide he sees Frimpong and Bolingoli as defenders first which by any stretch of imagination they are not. Frimpong has become a darling of the fans because of his ability to get forward and create some excitement, not because of any defensive prowess. If anything they are wing backs or wingers. I give Bolingoli the benefit of doubt as he is forever out of position when going forward too often. I would have preferred them as wing backs with an extra midfielder on and two up front. We did not need two wide men blocking any way forward for them, If Lenny wants to play Forrest and MJ wide then he needs to get two full back who defend first and foremost. For my money Lenny is to blame, I can accept losing games but i cannot accept a coaching team who fail to see what thousands of fans see. If the don't see the problems then they should not be there, If they do see them and fail to attempt to rectify then they should not be there. Just my opinion.
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Post by Hollowgreen on Dec 30, 2019 17:35:48 GMT
Ntcham coming on for his so called cameo was not going to undo what had gone before, he should have started. In and out of the side on a regular basis is not going to help anyone. My biggest fear is that Lawell actually believes that Lennon has an eye for a player. Here we have a coach who had he been in the stands as a fan watching this, would have been shouting with many of the fans after twenty that change was needed, yet in a position to make those changes he does nothing neither at twenty minutes or at half time. His eye for a player suggests that by playing Forrest and Johnston wide he sees Frimpong and Bolingoli as defenders first which by any stretch of imagination they are not. Frimpong has become a darling of the fans because of his ability to get forward and create some excitement, not because of any defensive prowess. If anything they are wing backs or wingers. I give Bolingoli the benefit of doubt as he is forever out of position when going forward too often. I would have preferred them as wing backs with an extra midfielder on and two up front. We did not need two wide men blocking any way forward for them, If Lenny wants to play Forrest and MJ wide then he needs to get two full back who defend first and foremost. For my money Lenny is to blame, I can accept losing games but i cannot accept a coaching team who fail to see what thousands of fans see. If the don't see the problems then they should not be there, If they do see them and fail to attempt to rectify then they should not be there. Just my opinion. I get what you are saying. Lennon to me is a lazy manager, he does not do hsi homework or detailed research on the opposition. For instance I've been told that he did not view the videos of our defeat to Cluj or our battering by Rangers in the League Cup Final, albeit we luckily won that Cup against the run of play. Modern day professional managers always do detailed analytic research and insight into the team's performances week in week out with the team present, so as to correct mistakes and bad habits. And while we are on this track, what good is our defensive coach John Kennedy when our defenders keep making the same basic mistakes over and over again. Perhaps also this zonal marking system is to blame too. I am not a fan.
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